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		<title>Financiranje održavanja sustava PK diploma</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.perforum.info/financiranje-odrzavanja-sustava-pk-diploma/" title="Financiranje održavanja sustava PK diploma" rel="nofollow"><img width="150" height="150" src="https://www.perforum.info/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Suradnja-150x150.jpg" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="" style="float: left; margin-right: 5px;" link_thumbnail="1" decoding="async" /></a><p>Kolege diplomirani permakulturni dizajneri, i ostali koji se tako osjećaju&#8230; Odnedavno sam u poduzetničkim vodama, pa mi se perspektiva pomalo</p>
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<p>Kolege diplomirani permakulturni dizajneri, i ostali koji se tako osjećaju&#8230; </p>



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<p>Odnedavno sam u poduzetničkim vodama, pa mi se perspektiva pomalo mijenja u tom smjeru. A nedavno smo pričali na temu novca, tj. odakle financirati održavanje sustava diploma i općenito kolektivnog razvoja permakulture na našim prostorima. Ovakva su moja razmišljanja. Tekst je poduži, jer generalno ne volim brze i ishitrene odgovore. Volim dizajnirati dobro rješenje <strong>koje drži vodu</strong>.</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Moj obrt (<a href="https://enika.hr/">Enika.hr</a>)</h4>



<p>Neki već znaju, nedavno sam jednostavno dao otkaz u firmi u kojoj radim preko 20 godina. Bez ideje što ću dalje. Narednih dana sam registrirao obrt, i prijavio sve djelatnosti koje su mi zamislive da bih mogao raditi. Od uzgoja raznih stvari, dizajniranja prostora, držanja poduka, do &#8220;majstorskih&#8221; usluga koje mi leže. Ideja je da barem dio prihoda dolazi od stvari koje se tiču <strong>permakulture</strong>. Usluge dizajniranja, konzultacije, održavanje nečijeg prostora, radne akcije, profi usluge postavljanja solarnih elektrana, navodnjavanja itd.</p>



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<p>Za sad, <strong>malo </strong>imam poslovnih prilika u permakulturnim krugovima. Ljudi permakulturu povezuju valjda uz neimaštinu, amaterstvo, volonterstvo&#8230; Pa će vrlo rado &#8220;udaviti&#8221; za neki savjet, ali teško plaćaju profi usluge.</p>



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<p>Ipak, nedavno sam odradio neke konzultacije. Upoznao ljude koji su u situaciji koja je vrlo slična mojoj prije 10-ak godina, točno znam što prolaze i što ih muči. Znaju i oni da im mogu pomoći. Nekako su se odlučili da mi plate da im pogledam imanje, da ih odvedem na svoje, ohrabrim malo na početku njihovog puta i dam neke praktične savjete. I kažu kako su u jedan dan naučili više nego da su pročitali cijelu policu knjiga. Tu uslugu sam im naplatio 200 eura. Smatram kako ove prilike ne bi niti bilo da nemam diplomu permakulturnog dizajnera, da nisam uključen u popularizaciju permakulture i da ne postoje komunikacijski kanali kojima su oni doznali za permakulturu i mene osobno. Pa da se odužim sustavu, donacijom vraćam 10% (20 eura) za održavanje sustava.</p>



<p>Za sad, meni su ovakve prilike mali udio u ukupnom poslovanju, ali svaka mrvica dobro dođe. I ukazuje da bi moglo biti još sličnih prilika. Kada bi sustav bio razvijeniji, a permakultura još bolje prepoznata.</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Promocija prakse doniranja</h4>



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<p>Link za donacije sam stavio u zaglavlje Perforuma, pa tko god dođe na portal, vjerojatno će vidjeti poziv za donaciju. Hoće li se odazvati, vidjeti ćemo. Ali barem imamo link na praktičnom mjestu. Pa ako se meni zalomi opet neka prilika da odradim nešto profesionalno ovog tipa, opet ću odvojiti 10% iznosa. A ako se vama ukaže slična prilika, molio bih da isto učinite. U poduzetništvu je uobičajeno da se dio zarade reinvestira kako bi posao rastao. Ako mi koji možemo nešto zaraditi od razvoja permakulture ne podržimo razvoj, onda zaista ne vidim tko bi trebao to učiniti.</p>



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<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Moj oglas na Perforumu</h4>



<p>Sada dolazimo na problem vidljivosti nas i naših usluga. Ja bih svakako volio da kad se netko nađe u situaciji da mu ja mogu pomoći, da on zna gdje da takvu pomoć potraži. Kod drugih djelatnosti postoje oglasnici i slični instrumenti traženja klijenata. U permakulturi baš nemamo neku utabanu stazu. Ja mogu razvijati Perforum u tom smjeru jer mi je najpoznatiji resurs. Vi vjerojatno možete nešto svoje, ili na drugi način sudjelovati u međusobnoj promociji. Kakogod, na Perforum sam stavio vlastiti oglas, u nadi da će me naći onaj tko me traži. Pa bih isto predložio i vama, ako je zanimljivo. Odnosno slično bih ponudio svakome tko misli da može ponuditi neku stručnu pomoć onima koji ju traže.</p>



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<p>Naravno, uz više-manje iste uvjete. Ako je nekome popularizacija permakulture pomogla da bolje posluje, npr. prodaje više sadnica ili knjiga ili nekih usluga&#8230; Pa neka komadić vrati u sustav, kako bi se ovaj nastavio razvijati. Za neke je možda bolje da plaćaju oglas, za druge je ok da doniraju ako uspiju nešto profitirati.</p>



<p>Tu bih se recimo osvrnuo na skoro pa jedine gospodarske aktivnosti u permakulturi, a to su tečajevi. Tečaj funkcionira zato što je permakultura popularna, pa mislim da bi dio zarade s tečaja trebao ići za popularizaciju, odnosno održavanje ovog sustava o kojem pišem.</p>



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<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Popularizacija profesionalnih usluga u permakulturi</h4>



<p>Rekao bih da se stalno &#8220;gura&#8221; neka dogma kako u permakulturi svi mogu i trebaju sve sami. Od dizajna i oblikovanja zemljišta, gradnje kuće, postavljanja složenih sustava, uzgoja hrane, vođenja uspješnog biznisa koji će sve to omogućiti&#8230; Par istaknutih promotera permakulture u svijetu tako kao čarobnjaci pustinje pretvaraju u oaze, uzgajaju hranu gdje je uzgoj bio nezamisliv, najpoznatija eko sela funkcioniraju kao svemirski brodovi iz SF filmova&#8230; A u našoj stvarnosti neka tetka sa umjetnim kukom i invalidskom mirovinom završi tečaj PK dizajniranja i ne zna odakle da krene. Prođe 10-15 godina, a ljudi većinom ne naprave ništa konkretno. U drugim profesijama se takve stvari ne događaju baš često. Kad vam treba električar, platite električara, ne idete na tečaj. Ako već platite edukaciju i završite nešto, onda se očekuje da se time i bavite. Po mogućnosti, profesionalno?</p>



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<p>Moj prijedlog je otprilike da oni koji se profi bave nečim vezanim uz permakulturu, trebaju financirati razvoj, ali razvoj treba ići u smjeru da i oni imaju od čega živjeti. Jer kao što sam na početku rekao; ja svoj kruh lako zaradim kao običan električar, stolar, majstor za ovo ili ono, pa permakulturu zadržim kao hobby ili lifestyle&#8230; Ali radije bih u toj kulturi bio i profesionalno. Također, često sam i sȁm trebao nečije usluge, a nisam znao koga tražiti.</p>



<p>Pa s moje strane, ja mogu tu i tamo napisati nešto na tu temu, ako tekstove netko još uvijek čita. Mogu nuditi usluge koje znam raditi, i tražiti usluge za ono što ne znam. Vi ste u nekoj drugoj situaciji, također sa diplomom koja kaže da znate razvijati praktična i originalna rješenja. Ako vam se prijedlog dopada, mogli bi na neki svoj način pomoći da se permakultura digne na neku profesionalniju razinu?</p>



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<p>Objavio: <a href="https://www.perforum.info/author/nikola/">Nikola</a></p>
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